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Re: The Objective Psyche – take two

ccseed — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:24:25 -0000

...I like to believe ii will be very much the same...and until then, I watch out for uneven sidewalks...

Re: The Objective Psyche – take two

Matt Searles — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 02:22:46 -0000

There's a zen saying to the effect that once you reach enlightenment.. everything is sorta the same accept that you're feet are a foot or so above the ground. Which is a little different from another sorta thing thats like folks feeling so spiritual that they forget there feet are on the ground and are surprised when they trip.

Re: The Objective Psyche – take two

Richard Reeve — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:46:05 -0000

Thanks for the clarification Sid. My sci-fi references are pretty limited...but clearly its the medium that best renders this future. I was also thinking along the line the Russian film maker Tarkovsky was heading with his Stalker and Solaris.
The combining of the contraries, as you pointed out in your recent graduation speech, is the mystery facing each of us.

Re: The Objective Psyche – take two

Sid Parham — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:06:52 -0000

The right sci=fi reference is not star wars, but Stadgate, the TV series, various characters "ascend," after having an experience similar to the one described above. Only by unifying the "contraries" on one plane can one advance to another.

Re: The Objective Psyche – take two

ccseed — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:25:42 -0000

For the ego and it's current sense of separation, which was absolutely needed to gain consciousness, the threat is real enough. But the merging that is being foreseen in Edinger, amongst others, is not a loss of consciousness, but a furtherance.

I'd also add that the nightmare is usually generated by two causes, either trauma or the need of the unconscious to jolt the ego to pay some attention to it...in the second case its the conscious attitude toward the objective psyche that constellates the nightmare.

L'engle vision has much validity. The question is where is the root of the fear?

Re: The Objective Psyche – take two

sonja — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:46:39 -0000

Personally I think I understand what the quote means but I see no signs of convergence in objective psyche with outer physical reality. Instead, perhaps they are running in the same direction, crossing at times, then wandering back out. But converging? Disappearance of subject and object? that sounds like the nightmare world L'engle talks about in A wrinkle in time, where all are linked to the mind of the evil "It." If you remember that book.